
On
the (Gay) Radio
by Robert Nesti
For the
longest time, radio has been dominated by conservative talk radio, drive-time
shock jocks, pop music oldies, NPR, and sports programming-where, you may
wonder, is the gay and lesbian presence in the medium? Even
NPR-considered the most inclusive of radio networks-lacks a significant
ongoing gay and lesbian presence. (Monologues by David Sedaris don’t quite
cut it.) What there is has been limited to localized, magazine-like programs
such as One in Ten, Boston’s popular Sunday night broadcast heard on WFNX-FM.
Radio, it seems, was locked in the past, slow to embrace the social trends
that other mediums, specifically television and movies (and, to a lesser
extent) music, have embraced. Where was the gay Rush Limbaugh? (Okay, that’s
a scary thought; but you get the point.) That may be
why a recent announcement by Clear Channel that they are producing a new
radio show aimed specifically at gays and lesbians seemed more than business
as usual. The media giant, with considerable holdings in terrestrial radio,
satellite, and television has created, and is producing and marketing
America’s first nationally syndicated radio talk show targeted to the LGBT
community - PRIDE Radio with Ryan & Caroline. "We are
committed to developing new talent," explained Jared Cohen, Coordinator
for Clear Channel Content Research and Development. "Ryan and Caroline
are radio’s Will & Grace and Pride reflects their unique sensibility,
celebrating pop culture and all things entertainment." The
show-described in its press release as an innovative talk radio show focusing
on celebrity interviews, music, gossip, travel, entertainment and lifestyle
trends-may not seem like revolutionary programming, but it indicates one of
numerous developments in radio aimed at the gay and lesbian audiences. Other
examples are springing up coast-to-coast: In San Francisco KNGY’s Fernando
Ventura and Greg Sherrell host what the first openly gay commercial radio
morning show hosts in the country. From Sirius Radio there’s OutQ, which
offers 24-hour programming with such personalities as Michelangelo Signorile,
Frank DeCaro, and Keith Price; and in addition to putting Ryan and Caroline
in FM markets throughout the country, Clear Channel also has initiated HD-2
channels in a dozen markets such as Chicago, Dallas, Hartford, Miami and West
Palm Beach under the name of Pride Radio, a mix of music (mostly latest
dance) and feature-type broadcasts (once it premieres, Ryan & Caroline
will have a slot.) Currently on a dozen HD stations, it also can be found on
websites of nearly two dozens Clear Channel stations. What’s unique about the
stream is that is all music-no ads (at present) and no djs. Also being
syndicated on stations nationwide is Radio With a Twist, which (up to now)
can boast the largest reach of any gay-oriented show in the country. In
Boston’s One in Ten has been airing on Sunday nights for 15 years; and talk
radio, courtesy of Air America, isn’t just the old boys network anymore, with
two out radio personalities hosting shows-Rachel Maddow and Laura Flanders. What is
obviously driving this programming is that these media giants see gay green,
and are making a play for it. Gay Radio is fast becoming a new niche market.
"’This has the potential to be as big as Latino or urban radio,"
Jared Cohen, the creator of Pride Radio, told the Washington Post. "Sure,
if it’s entertaining, well-produced and not self-indulgent," Radio
consultant Walter Sabo is CEO of New York-based Sabo Media told Ken R.
Deutsch on the website for the magazine Radio World. "There are many
gay-targeted businesses that make a fortune, so the ad money is there, no
problem." "You
know when Clear Channel does something that you know they didn’t do it on a
whim," explained Keith Orr, the executive producer and one of the
co-hosts (with Sue O’Connell) of One in Ten. "That they’ve investigated
it. That they’ve spent a large amount of time market-researching it, and
there’s someone championing the project to bring it up to this level. If
they’re going to make this type of commitment, especially in a climate like
this one where conservatives are on the attack, means that they’re willing to
weather some kind of storm. Because they’re going to be some kind of a
storm-even if it’s minimal-because there is always some kind of reaction from
the Right." Rachel Maddow, the out host of Air
America’s The Rachel Maddow Show, concurs. "I think that niche marketing
to a gay audience, particularly broadcast media, makes sense at this point. I
think they’re a little late to this game, but if they want to put some
marketing muscle behind it and really support it, I think it could be a big
money maker for them. It’s late, but they’re smart to do it." "We thought we were on episode of Punk’d. The next
thing we know we’re nationally syndicated and having the time of our
lives." Ryan Jay. Yet to see it embraced by Clear
Channel is a bit like hearing that now the Pope will officiate gay marriages.
The media giant, that syndicates such less-than-gay-friendly personalities as
Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage, is not seen as an overly progressive media
outlet. So much so that when he was approached about the show, Ryan Jay
thought it was a joke. "When they came to us, we
thought it was a prank," Jay explained with a laugh. "We didn’t believe
it until we went to a meeting; and then we realized, ’Wow. We’re going to be
in the same studio as Rush Limbaugh above "I think it’s great that
Clear Channel, which is known as a conservative, right-wing company, is
embracing our show and is totally behind it," added co-host Caroline
Hand. "They conceived of it. I don’t know what perception that people
have of Clear Channel, but it is great that they’re branching out and trying
to do new kinds of shows. There’s definitely a market for it." It was Clear Channel who
approached the two, who became friends in the early 1990s while they were
working at VH1 and began working together on their movie review website weseemovies.com a few years ago.
"Someone at Clear Channel came across it," Jay recalled. "They
were developing a gay show and thought we’d be fun hosts." The show
debut in five markets last January, and will be expanding shortly to twenty
Clear Channel FM and HD stations. What may be the biggest boon to
gay radio are emerging technologies such as Internet radio and podcasts that
have expanded the radio audience in ways not realized a decade ago. Who would
have thought the iPod would become the transistor radio of the past? For
instance listeners on the East Coast can listen to KNGY’s Fernando Ventura
and Greg Sherrell’s morning show on KNGY’s webcast; Pride Radio is streamed;
and a visit to iTunes will show an eclectic mix of LGBT podcasts to download,
led by the #1 rated Gay Pimpin’ with Jonny McGovern. McGovern may be a familiar name
due to his presence on the Logo’s The Big Gay Sketch Show, but he’s been a
popular "It was suggested to me to
check out what these podcasts were," McGovern explained recently from McGovern’s feelings are similar
to those of Daniel Nardicio, who has parlayed his downtown club persona into
being labeled the Gay Howard Stern. He hosts DlistRadio, a show that’s
broadcast on the Internet and is available as a downloadable podcast, also on
iTunes and at dlist.com. "I thought it would be fun
to create a But will PRIDE Radio with Ryan
& Caroline succeed? It may depend on format. "I think that you can
get too trite or you can get too serious," said Orr. "I think
tempering the hard news with the soft news and still make it compelling is
the way to go." Orr should know-he’s been hosting
One in Ten since 1995, and has witnessed the changes in attitudes towards
gays and lesbian over the airwaves. "It wasn’t unusual for guests to ask
for a nom de plume, or even ask to have their voice disguised,"
he explained recalling what times were like when he first came to the show. But that was then. Today finding
guests for the show has changed dramatically. "Now I spend an enormous
amount of time just fending off publicists. I have a cadre of people who can
provide me access to whomever I need, and I don’t bat an eye about talking to
anybody-a U.S. Senator, a film producer-we have a viable audience and viable
questions, and we’re not going anywhere." |
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